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natuxatu · Jul 07, 2006, 11:58 AM // 11:58

Yeah if you re-read it he doesn't say they are going to add jumping just that free roaming would be addressed more in the future example: the ability to go more places on the map ect.

If jump was ever added it'd be an emote plain and simple. That's all.

Mr_T_bot · Jul 07, 2006, 12:00 PM // 12:00

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Originally Posted by Orbberius

Implementing jumping seems to me like a waste of resources. I really couldn't care less. In fact, I think it would be a very bad idea to change a mechanic that works well midway through the life of the game.

And I have a hard time believing bodyblocking is a mistake of the game code. There's even a Master of Bodyblocking in the Isle of Nameless!

There is now

majoho · Jul 07, 2006, 12:01 PM // 12:01

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Originally Posted by Mysterial

The fact that body blocking is a "core strategy" is a serious game design flaw IMO. It is extremely not fun for either party; I want to win and lose because of my skill and my build, not because I was or wasn't good enough at exploiting the game's horrific pathing and collision problems.

LMAO, yeah because body blocking isn't realistic

In my opinion that's a very RIGHT thing about GW, blocking with your body makes SENSE.

Go back to WoW where you can walk thru people.

Amity and Truth · Jul 07, 2006, 12:03 PM // 12:03

Imho, jumping destroys games more that it helps them. Jumping doesn't bring any improvement to the game, but it sure gives some folks weapons to harass others even more.

Give *jump* me *jump* the *jump* stupid *jump* item *jump* lol *jump*. Could get as worse as Conquer Online where all you do is jump. Or Quake: Ughh . Ughh. Ughh. Ughh. Uggh. Ughh. Ughh. Ughh. Ughh.

Bah, no please no. Just keep it out of the game.

Orbberius · Jul 07, 2006, 12:13 PM // 12:13

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Originally Posted by Mr_T_bot

There is now

Ok, here's a very simple thought: If the developers didn't want body-blocking, they would have let you simply walk through people.

I... I hope that's clear enough for you. And yeah, bodyblocking is great. Get used to it or get used to sucking.

Snowman · Jul 07, 2006, 12:14 PM // 12:14

all Jeff says is that it would be addressed...

you are all assuming that any kind of jumping would be something all characters would be able to do... WoW / CoH stylee..

however, think about it..

Nothing stopping them from making a SKILL!?.. maybe that new fisty-cuffs type character in C3 will have it as 'jumping' attribute xD

I dont know how it would work but it would be a move that would maybe alow you to jump out of battle without suffering critical strike..

I agree, I doubt they would make it so you can jump and clear a character.. but maybe a pet or a small monster?

MirkoTeran · Jul 07, 2006, 01:02 PM // 13:02

One way to simply solve this would be a text filter like the one for WTB/WTS. If you say something in the lines "ZOMG I want to JUMP like in WoW!! lolololol!!11!!1" you get banned from GW for a week (ban length depending on the number of lol-s and !-s in message).

JR · Jul 07, 2006, 01:27 PM // 13:27

Bunny hopping lightning orbs... what fun.

death fuzzy · Jul 07, 2006, 01:35 PM // 13:35

i dont think jumping would make the game any better..
It would be a pointless update IMO

Dark Luke · Jul 07, 2006, 01:38 PM // 13:38

In the real world, you can jump, but nowhere high enough to pass through normal standing bodyblockers... And you can't really jump down ledges because it'll either kill or severly cripple yourself for a long time...

frickett · Jul 07, 2006, 01:43 PM // 13:43

You can only jump if you buy chapter 4. lol

Tetris L · Jul 07, 2006, 02:08 PM // 14:08

Oh please, no bunnyhopping in GuildWars. This isn't Quake or UT. Jumping really serves no purpose in an MMORPG.

Cat Tabby · Jul 07, 2006, 02:17 PM // 14:17

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Originally Posted by frojack

'Body' blocking as you put it, has been a war strategy for as long as we have had war. Why do you think the Romans always moved in formation? They even invented that crazy thing called the Testudo formation (looked like a giant turtle made of shields)

The 'turtle' formation you refer to was usually used to protect against projectile attacks while approaching a fortification.

As for jumping; I think it would be a good thing although it would require a massive overhaul of what are frankly quite horrendous physics in guild wars.

Also; I dont think you should be able to walk through other players - a la WoW - but you should be able to walk through spirits. The number of times I have been trapped against one of my own spirits

its infuriating. And they r spirits after all.

LifeInfusion · Jul 07, 2006, 02:45 PM // 14:45

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Originally Posted by Tetris L

Oh please, no bunnyhopping in GuildWars. This isn't Quake or UT. Jumping really serves no purpose in an MMORPG.

QFT

If they implement jumping, the next thing you know there will be matrix style jumping of walls then guns and missiles
...echo nuker anyone?

We really don't need jumping because the current mechanics of bodyblocking work quite well and it isn't a FPS.

Snowman · Jul 07, 2006, 02:54 PM // 14:54

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Originally Posted by frickett

You can only jump if you buy chapter 4. lol

lol !

in chapter 5 you can change your hair style.

Chapter 6 you can ride mounts

Chapter 7 you get access to all the core features that they made you buy previous chapters for because people are sick of having to buy chapters just to get core features.

dreamhunk · Jul 07, 2006, 02:56 PM // 14:56

yea know what gw will neverr ever make sales like wow. There are going to be other mmorpg's coming out and they will take gw spot and sunshine!

Why you ask well lets see soooo maney thing that are fun are lacking in thsi game! It act not like a true rpg but fps!

Just like how you killed pvp in this game HA! your going to kill gw! good luck with really!

there is a reason gw didnot make it sales! there is a reason that faction didnot sell well.

eudas · Jul 07, 2006, 03:30 PM // 15:30

enabling jumping would be 1) lame (resurgence of the bunny hoppers) and 2) pointless at best, and downright unbalancing (to the point of ruining the game) at worst -- the game was designed to be 2-d and many aspects of the game balance depend on it.

eudas

vinegrower · Jul 07, 2006, 03:44 PM // 15:44

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Originally Posted by MasterDinadan

If body blocking was not intended to be part of team strategy, they wouldn't have implemented it in the first place. If they wanted you to easily reach the enemies back rank, they would just allow you to walk right through their warriors.
Now... the pathfinding and collision is still an issue :/ sometimes it's inconvenient when you think you slip past a warrior and then a second later find yourself back in the same place with him blocking the way and beating on you.

not to mention that if it was not an intended feature, they wouldn't have put a "Master of Blocking" in the Isle of the Nameless to teach you about body blocking and how to deal with it. It would be hard to believe that body blocking is not an intended feature when they show you how to do it.

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Originally Posted by dreamhunk

yea know what gw will neverr ever make sales like wow. There are going to be other mmorpg's coming out and they will take gw spot and sunshine!

Why you ask well lets see soooo maney thing that are fun are lacking in thsi game! It act not like a true rpg but fps!

Just like how you killed pvp in this game HA! your going to kill gw! good luck with really!

there is a reason gw didnot make it sales! there is a reason that faction didnot sell well.

I don't think any MMO will makes sales like WoW. No MMO has ever had WoW's kind of sucess, and it would take a lot to dethrone it. GW is not trying to compete head to head with WoW anyways.

GW not making sales? As of the 5th, Factions sits at #4 in the PC sales charts, Prophicies is still at #20

rollntider · Jul 07, 2006, 03:46 PM // 15:46

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Originally Posted by dreamhunk

yea know what gw will neverr ever make sales like wow. There are going to be other mmorpg's coming out and they will take gw spot and sunshine!

Why you ask well lets see soooo maney thing that are fun are lacking in thsi game! It act not like a true rpg but fps!

Just like how you killed pvp in this game HA! your going to kill gw! good luck with really!

there is a reason gw didnot make it sales! there is a reason that faction didnot sell well.

Actually GW: Prophecies was a consistent top 10 in sales as well as Factions is now in the top 10 in sales. True WOW is #1 in sales, but Blizzard has been around like 10+ years longer and is better known.
Last I heard WOW hit 6 million suscribers I bet they are still counting my dormant account from 9 months ago, and many of my other friends. But GW hit the 2 million mark. Pretty good if ya ask me. I bet they both will last a long time and I wish both game companies well.
http://www.gamespot.com/news/index.html there is some facts to back me up, look at the sales at the bottom. Got any facts to back up factions not selling well?

Beat_Go_Stick · Jul 07, 2006, 03:46 PM // 15:46

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Originally Posted by Matsumi

Hmm, jumping, turtles.... I see where this game is going

lol

I'll never understand why everyone wants to jump in every game they play.....maybe people finally had enough when they were cut off from Mhenlo by a pile of rubble that didn't even clear chest-height